Tuesday, September 30, 2008

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ATLAS INTERVIEW: LARS HEDEGAARD, PRESIDENT FREE PRESS SOCIETY, DENMARK 'WEEKLY GUN BATTLES IN COPENHAGEN" "AMERICA IS IN FOR IT"

Cross posted from Atlas Shrugs

Hat tip to Frogg from Chron Watch Forum

I spent some time with Lars Hedegaard, President of the Free Press Society and Executive Editor, The Free Press Society and quintessential Dane.
The Fragility of Freedom: The Danish Example

First of all I was struck by how fragile the entire democratic edifice appears to be and how little it would take to demolish it. As has actually happened several times over the course of the first 150 years of our democratizing process that lasted from approximately 1770 until 1915.
Hedegaard's Free Press Society was the first to step up and offer to publish the Random House banned book, The Jewel of Medina. The book's agent went a different way, and I hear the new publisher is soiling his pants.

Watch the interview. I was flabbergasted by his reports of the bi-weekly gun battles between Muslims and Hells Angels in Copenhagen. Grenades, serious weapons .......... the whole thing. And no media coverage.
Hedegaard says the population changes in Europe are irreversible, that nation states will be an empty shell ....

If you think of Europe's future, "Europe is forever changed".
Pamela: "How does this relate to America?

Transcript of interview beginning at :48 =
Atlas:
Whats happening in Denmark? You were outlining the status in the street. Whats going on in the street? You were telling me about gun battles. . .
Lars Hedegaard:
Yes. I don't think it's . . .nobody knows about this outside of the country and hardly inside the country. It's not being reported.
Atlas:
So you think the media is not reporting this?
Lars Hedegaard:
The local media are, but I dont' think the meaning of it is sufficiently being understood. I don't think Americans realize what we are going through in Denmark at the moment. We have weekly gun battles in Copenhagen, in the inner city of Copenhagen.
Atlas:
Your having weekly gun battles in the inner city of Copenhagen
Lars Hedegaard:
Yah
Atlas:
Between
Lars Hedegaard:
Between various gangs, muslim gangs and on the other hand we have, you know, Hells Angels.
Atlas:
I like those guys.
Lars Hedegaard:
I dont' know them. They are not fighting over any particular principle. They are fighting over drugs, narcotics, weapons, all kinds of shady things. It's a criminal environment. But I mean, it's very interesting that we never had these conditions before not only in Copenhagen but in the second city of Denmark which is called Aarhus, which is the biggest city in Jutland, where I grew up. There was an incidentrecently where a muslim gang attacked the headquarters of Hells Angels in the city. They threw a hand grenade at the back of the building and when the Hells Angels came out of the front they threw another hand grenade which did not explode. Otherwise, dozens would have been killed. They have had automatic fire, automatic weapons. . .
Atlas:
You were saying they were throwing hand grenades at Hells Angels Headquarters. Now Hells Angels are not dhimmis. Would you say they were?
Lars Hedegaard:
They're not dhimmis.
Atlas:
No. So, they fight back. They don't take a politically correct stand.
Lars Hedegaard:
They fight back because of their criminal interests. So they fight back. But, I mean, even more indicative of what is going on in Denmark is the fact that, I think it was three weeks ago, a gang of Hells Angels marched through the central part of Aarhus. A hundred, perhaps as a manifestation of their power. The next day, a hundred muslim youth marched through our second city under the slogan "this town is ours". I mean, we are on the verge . . .you know the film "Gangs of New York"?
Atlas:
Yes, of course.
Lars Hedegaard:
We are not there yet, but it is getting to that point.
Atlas:
So, let me ask you something. Let's discuss what is irreversible and whats changable. What the trans-Atlantic counter-jihad movement can do in terms of affecting some kind of a positive change. What's irreversible, Lars? What's irreversible in Europe?
Lars Hedegaard:
What is irreversible is that we now have according to the various calculations, we have, uh, some people say 54 million muslims out of a total population of 400 million perhaps. Others who put that figure at a somewhat lower level. But, what is irreversible is that we have now implanted in Europe the population of a culture that is absolutely unwilling to integrate, that is accept our standards, accept our culture. They do not want to speak our language. They do not want to conform to our way of life.
Atlas:
And is there a poisonous fruit in the result of that?
Lars Hedegaard:
Well, it's going to split our societies. The cohesion, the national cohesion of a country like Denmark - and remember Denmark is perhaps the oldest of nation states in Europe. We can trace our history as a nation state back almost to the time of this guy 'muhammad'.
Atlas:
"This guy",(can I have one of your snap peas. . .thank you)
Can I ask you something else, on the irreversible thing we're discussing . ..so, what will be the result of that? Do you see nation states? Do you see cities walling themselves off? Are nation states dead?
Lars Hedegaard:
Well, if you want me to answer something - you sould think of the League of Nations. It was an organization that had taken upon itself to create peace and happiness and understanding and pluralism. Well . .
Atlas:
And we all know where that led.
Lars Hedegaard:
Soon, you'll see there will be a country called Denmark. It will have a government. It will hold elections. It will have public administration, a flag, a national anthem
Atlas: (my fish is better than yours. i just want you to know you've got a funky thing going)
So, you'll have a national anthem - BUT
Lars Hedegaard:
It will be an empty shell. The reality inside of Denmark and all other countries of Europe - all other nation states of Europe - is that they have no cohesion. The writ of the national law does not run all over the national territory. In some parts of the country, another legal system will prevail. . .Sharia law. Another culture. They will have their own armed forces. If you think of Europe's future, don't think of Europe as lost. Europe is forever changed. You have to think of . . .
Atlas:
Europe is forever changed .. .
Lars Hedegaard:
Forever changed. You have to think of the future kings who (?also) during the times of troubles where you have Protestants, Catholics firing upon each other. You'll have enclaves of, or letlwe say, the catch word is 'multiculture' . It is supposed to be a great thing. Multicultural societies know we won't have multiculture. We'll have uniculture depending on where you are. In one place, in one geographical locality, one culture will reign supreme.
Atlas:
In one particular area.
Lars Hedegaard:
Yes. Nothing else will be allowed. So you have these enclaves in perpetual low intensity warfare against each other. From time to time, it will blow up into heavy fighting as we saw in the Balkans . But I mean, that is the nature of Islam. That is the modus operandi of Islam, to undermine the cohesion of societies that are crazy enough to accept a fair number of muslims to enter into the country .
Atlas:
And how does this relate to America?
Lars Hedegaard:
Well, you're in for it.
Atlas:
"You're in for it" , I like that. At least you say it straight.
Lars Hedegaard:
You're in for it. That is , and before you think you'll be in for it. Think in terms of five or ten years you'll have the same thing. I'm even amazed, when you talk about these weaklings in Europe, and indeed we are, we are light years ahead of you in terms of understanding the problem - at least some of us. You don't have an inkling about what you are up against.
Atlas:
Well, five of us do.
Lars Hedegaard:
Five of us. OK, you are one and I know the other four.
Atlas:
Well, listen, you can't really fault Americans. There has been a deliberate misinformation campaign.
Lars Hedegaard:
We've had the same thing. Why can't we fault you?
Atlas:
You can't fault us because you are much further along. You are much further along. Listen, the American people have no clue that we're importing whole communities of muslims that are agitating now in Greely and in Grand Island . When Americans see this, they react viscerally. When they saw that Tysons foods changed their contract , their union contract from Labor Day to the Last day of Ramadan. . .when they heard about that, there was a visceral reaction and they wrote and they called and Tyson Foods back pedaled.
Lars Hedegaard:
Wow.
Atlas:
So, when the American people know, let me tell you something, they're very - they take action. They have no clue. Unless they know, like the analogy I used previous to the camera, they are like Helen Keller and someone moved the furniture and[video ends]

Posted by Pamela Geller

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