A note from Radarsite:
Warning: The following article is unfair and unbalanced.
If you are looking for a gentlemanly debate on the morality of America, or on the moral justification of American national or foreign policy you should probably stop right here. There are a great number of sites out there that will be more than happy to accomodate you. But this isn't one of them.
Our mission here is simple, clear and unequivocal: we support our great nation. This means that whatever we do here on these pages is done to promote the cause of American victory in this great Clash of Civilizations which we call the Global War on Terror. We love our country. We do not devote all of our talents and energies seeking to undermine her credibility. We do not seek to discredit, dishonor or embarrass her. We will do everything in our power to honor and strengthen her.
Our obvious enemies, the blood-soaked Islamists, the relentless Communists, and this world's brutal petty potentates are generally clear and open in their statements of hatred; there is little that is ambiguous about their opinions of us, or their intentions toward us. Their mission, too, is simple, clear and unequivocal: they wish to destroy us or subjugate us.
But we have other, perhaps even more dangerous enemies, enemies who live amongst us; indeed they are us. They are that part of us who hates us. They are the Treacherous Patriots. You know who they are. They are our friendly next door neighbors and our good-hearted relatives, they are are children's school teacher or perhaps the young girl at the supermarket checkout counter. Above all, they will tell you, they are all patriotic Americans, loyal Americans who sincerely believe that somehow by burning our flag they will save our country. They eagerly remind us daily of our supposed misdeeds, our long, self-centered, ruthless history of oppression of the weak and powerless of this world. They love America so much that they are willing to see us defeated in order to change our misbegotten ways. They thoroughly believe in their mission, too; they thoroughly believe that they know better. You see, they have the inside scoop. They've read the articles and listened to their professors. They watch tv and they know the score. They will not be misled by war-mongering racists or xenophobic right-wing Christian zealots.
To support their bleak assessment of America they patiently sift through the detritus of our shameful history, searching for the incontrovertible evidence of our manifest crimes. They are convinced that the only way to heal these grievous self-inflicted wounds is to heed the admonishments of our enemies. We must, they say, be willing to learn from our adversaries, and, most importantly, we must be willing to learn from our own past mistakes. That great long litany of dreadful mistakes which comprise the awful history or this flawed nation. We must learn from the unmitigated and unnecessary horrors of our Hiroshimas and Nagasakis, from our murderous Vietnams and Kent States. We must learn from our horrific ethnic cleansing of our noble Native Americans and the brutal enslavement and continuing subjugation of our down-trodden African-Americans.
Perhaps, they are willing to concede, we were noble once, perhaps long ago, but not lately. Certainly not now. Whatever we started out to be, somewhere along the way we lost our bearings and now we have become the enemy of the world. The oppressor of mankind. The Great Satan.
They are proud of their enlightenment and eager to share it with us. Here is one of them now:
I predict that America’s military action in the Middle East will enter the canons of history alongside Hiroshima, Nagasaki and the Holocaust, in kind if not in degree. The Bush administration’s war on terror marks the age in which America has again crossed a line that many argue should never be crossed. Call it preemption, preventive war, the war on terror, or whatever you like; there is a sense that we have again unleashed a force that, like a boom-a-rang, at some point has to come back to us. The Bush administration argues that American military intervention in the Middle East is purely in self-defense. Others argue that it is pure aggression. The consensus is equally as torn over its impact on international terrorism. Is America truly deterring future terrorists with its actions? Or is it, in fact, aiding the recruitment of more terrorists?
The last thing the United States should do at this point and time is to violate yet another state’s sovereignty. Beyond being wrong, it just isn't very smart. We all agree that slavery in this country was wrong; as was the decimation of the Native American populations. We all agree that the Holocaust and several other acts of genocide in the twentieth century were wrong. So when will we finally admit that American military intervention in the Middle East is wrong as well?
So, there you have it. The voice of the Treacherous Patriot. This is their grave message to America: You were wrong when you woke up in the morning, and it's been going downhill since then. Not quite hopeless, though, not quite yet. There's still time to change our ways, still time to heed their dire warnings. There's still November. There's still that Change we can believe in.
I don't know about you, but I cannot, I will not tolerate this pompous and ignorant bulls**t any longer. I will ignore it, I will delete it, but I will not debate it. I will no longer just agree to disagree with them. I will no longer allow these saboteurs a place at my table. This is the enemy within. This is the deliberate and shameless perfidy of the Treacherous Patriot.
I have lately discovered that there is no way to debate these idiots. Their minds are set at one thing and nothing one does or says can change it.
ReplyDeleteThese poor deluded fools have believed everything that their hippie professors have said to them. They have lost the ability of critical thinking, if they ever had it.
They have just one mantra: We are always right and you are religious fanatics. That is all that they know or are willing to know. They believe that the world will come to an end if we drill off-shore, insult an Arab, or ban gay marriage. If it is anti-American, they are all for it.
What they need is a good stint in the military. 4 years of military service (and maybe they will serve in Iraq or Afghanistan) will make them grow up. For you see dear friend, they (no matter what their age is) are still children and need to come out of Neverland and into the real world.
My Dear Roger,
ReplyDelete"They thoroughly believe that they know better"
With this you have crystallized the mind-set of the Fifth Column i.e. the Left. It is blind. It is arrogant. It is contemptuous of history and tradition because it KNOWS BETTER.
The text you cite linking Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the slave trade, the plight of native Americans, the Holocaust, American intervention in the Middle East as if all were repetitions of the same sin - the compulsive unwarranted violence on the part of the United States - is indicative of the venomous/lethal immaturity of this movement - believing themselves noble men when in fact they are useful idiots for evil itself. How
unspeakably vapid. How remarkably preposterous. How disastrously irresponsible.
Treacherous Patriots. Indeed!
Cheers,
Charlie
This is why we must and always question their Patriotism.
ReplyDeleteI don't in the least bit doubt that they are indeed patriotic. The problem is thus: we have no idea to whom they have sworn allegiance not to what they are patriotic to or towards.
It most certainly is not the Flag of the United States for which she stands or to our Constitution.
Well done Roger Guy.
IHNP
Re:”They are the Treacherous Patriots. You know who they are. They are our friendly next door neighbors and our good-hearted relatives, they are our children’s school teacher or perhaps the young girl at the supermarket checkout counter.”
ReplyDeleteYou are so right…they are MY relatives and the others mentioned are met every day. Perhaps you missed one and that is my life-long friends and classmates who inherited their family’s party mind-set and locked the door to reality. Its the same as all those flat-earth believers who refused to believe Columbus…the world had to wait until they either died-off or made the trip over the edge before the facts were accepted.
Why don't you open your mind to other possibilities, you ignorant warmongering dolt!
ReplyDeleteHave you heard that breed of "olive branch" from these guys before? That they can even say such things without someone's head exploding is astounding; the statement and its ilk are so brimming with irony that most people wouldn't need it described to them.
Yet they say it as though it were a perfectly reasonable suggestion, completely absent of any arguable bias. I'll echo the sentiment here that there is no discourse with these people. They decry Bush's questionable tag line that "you're either with us or against us." But more than a few of them have made this dubious implication: "you're either with us or you're Hitler."
Heck, even the guy you cited did it. And I doubt that you specifically looked for a tirade that mentioned Hitler, did you?
Ironic the link to treacherous acts of Hitler and others, admitting that they were wrong. And if this admission were to be followed in a debate would the author admit that using combat to end the holocaust was the right thing to do?
ReplyDeleteShould we have set on our duffs and let the Nazis wipe out the Jews? That Japanese to subjugate Asia, Saddam to oppress women Sunnis, the peoples of his neighboring countries?
One doesn't need to call their crap lies to diminish them, one only needs to ask them to defend their position, they diminish themselves.
It's a pity such ignorance exists.
Does anyone remember the image of American Soldiers being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu? I view this picture as the same form of atrocity.
ReplyDeleteAs I think of the red in our flag as representing the blood spilt by our soldiers, fellow citizen soldiers, in pursuit of our ideals, I find such actions vulgar; pure politics of the vulgar.
And, not to differ with you Fidalis, but I wouldn't want to serve with such people, nor would I risk the lives of other service people, by having them serve.
Thank you all. Those comments of course came from a response to an article of mine on Radarsite.
ReplyDeleteI should perhaps use this oppotunity to issue the following warning to potential commenters. If you comment here the chances are quite good that you will receive a response. It may be in the form of a reply in the comments thread, or perhaps an entire article, or your comment may simply be deleted. If you are out to discredit America you will not be debated, you will just be banned.
Thank you all for sharing my anger.
rg
You were wrong when you woke up in the morning, and it's been going downhill since then...amen my friend!..my last rant..post...took me 6 hours!!
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting to compare our present day attitudes toward our Islamist adversaries to the French attitudes toward their German invaders prior to their complete and ignoble capitulation in 1940. In both cases, the besieged seemed to identify more with their enemies than with their own nation. In both cases, there was a diminuation of patriotism and a fearful dread of war.
ReplyDeleteAre we doomed to the same fate as the French?
Good on ya Roger, i agree with your sentiments about not debating them, at least not seeking them out. The way i see it, the ones dragging the flag behind them are lost, you can't convince them otherwise, so there is no point talking to them, especially morons who equate the holocaust to the liberation of Iraq.
ReplyDeleteJust on ratbags like the one pictured, if only vermin like him had the balls to leave America. In all honesty if you cannot love your country, hate it and only feel scorn and derision for it, then you really should just leave it. They can eff off to Canada or Europe or Mexico. But we know they won't, i have yet to meet a parasite that willingly leaves its host.
"I have yet to meet a parasite that willingly leaves its host." MK
ReplyDeleteTerrific line MK. I'm going to be using that one again.
rg