Sunday, May 11, 2008

From Other Sites on the Line: 11 May 08

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Recommendations for the West

Cross posted from Infidel Force

-this from the fantastic blogger Fjordman click here:

The best way to deal with the Islamic world is to have as little to do with it as possible. We should ban Muslim immigration. This could be done in creative and indirect ways, such as banning immigration from nations with citizens known to be engaged in terrorist activities. We should remove all Muslim non-citizens currently in the West.

We should also change our laws to ensure that Muslim citizens who advocate sharia, preach Jihad, the inequality of “infidels” and of women should have their citizenship revoked and be deported back to their country of origin.

We need to create an environment where the practice of Islam is made difficult. Muslim citizens should be forced to either accept our secular ways or leave if they desire sharia. Much of this can be done in a non-discriminatory way, by simply refusing to allow special pleading to Muslims.

Do not allow the Islamic public call to prayer as it is offensive to other faiths. All children, boys and girls should take part in all sporting and social activities of the school and the community.

The veil should be banned in all public institutions, thus also contributing to breaking the traditional subjugation of women. Companies and public buildings should not be forced to build prayer rooms for Muslims. Enact laws to eliminate the abuse of family reunification laws. Do not permit major investments by Muslims in Western media or universities. Right now, Muslims can enjoy the best of both worlds: Following medieval religious laws while enjoying the fruits of 21st century civilization.

We need to drive home the utter failure of the Islamic model by making sure that Muslims should no longer able to count on permanent Western or infidel aid in their overpopulated, self-primitivized states, whose very unviability they are prevented from recognizing by this constant infusion of aid. I’m advocating isolating the Islamic world, not the West.

Even if we cannot allow all non-Muslims to freely settle in our lands, this does not mean that they have to be our enemies. Jihad is being waged against the entire non-Muslim world, not just the West. We should stop trying to “win the hearts and minds” of Muslims and start reaching out to non-Muslims.

For Europe, the most important thing to do right now is to dismantle the European Union in its present form, and regain national control over our borders and our legislation.

The EU is so deeply flawed as an organization, and so heavily infiltrated by Eurabian and pro-Islamic thinking that it simply cannot be reformed. And let’s end the stupid support for the Palestinians that the Eurabians have encouraged, and start supporting our cultural cousin, Israel.

Note from Radarsite: This is one of the most reasonable and actionable responses to our Muslim immigrant dilemma put forth so far. It deals with the developing crisis without resorting to those more extreme measures advocated by some (at times, even myself). It would be I think both effective and practical.

As for the chances of actually implementing something as logical and clear-headed as this proposal most certainly is, I hold no illusions. We are not ready for it yet.

We all have speculated on just what it would actually take to make us ready to act, but whatever that might be, it has -- very unfortunately -- yet to happen.
However, when it does happen, when we as a nation are finally ready to face up to this formidable challenge and decide to take action to defend ourselves, this would be a powerful first step.

I only wish we could do it now. The longer we wait, the more difficult it will become.

Kudos to Fjordman for his creative and well thought out proposal, and kudos to Spook for posting it. - rg

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  1. I found this recently.

    A Proposed Charter of Muslim Understanding

    It was written by Moderate Muslims for the Muslim community. The group that wrote it wants all Muslim Leaders to sign it. It affirms a moderate view, a change to Islam.

    Any religion can be changed. To be vibrant in the modern world, a religion must grow and evolve. These Muslims want the best of the religion without the 6th Century. They want a more modern religion.

    I don't mind a woman covering her head. I do mind the full veiling of her face. I don't mind if a restaurant in a predominately Muslim neighbor goes Halal. It's good economic sense. Many companies became Kosher for economic reasons. Taping into a market is good business. But I do mind having Halal forced down my throat. I don't force Kosher on anybody.

    Islam needs to evolve to change. The way Christianity and Judaism did. There are many laws in Judaism I don't like and would like changed. And many Jews like me are working for such change. But our religion has also evolved, changed.

    This Charter is a start in that direction. Now it's up to the Muslim community to take up the challenge to start the evolution process.

  2. No way in Hell, findalis!!! Sorry, but I must burst your bubble. See my blog post: Muslim Charter of Misrepresentation
    wherein I cover the damnable details.

    As for Fjordman's proposal, its another hopeless case. Western Civilization as a whole fails to recognize the existential threat posed by Islam. Until our societies drop political correctness and face the fatal facts of Islam, nothing good can happen; it ain't possible.

    Even with acknowledgment of the fatal facts, our constitutions and laws will not permit 'discrimination on the basis of religion'. We must first recognize and act upon the fact that Islam is not a religion. That is a near impossibility!

  3. Moderates are trying. When I showed the petition to Muslim friends of mine (yes I do have some), they wanted to sign it right there. They (a small minority) want to change their faith. Bring it into the 21st Century.

    We should encourage such efforts. They have a very difficult road ahead of them. A road faced with death threats. A road they have chosen to follow for it is the right thing to do.

  4. Churchill's ParrotMay 11, 2008 at 4:15 PM

    As in most cases of modern political consternation, what is needed is not reform, or ammendment, or candle-light vigils but enforcement of laws long ago put into place.

    Any one and everyone is welcome to live among us and count themselves as citizens so long as they adhere to our prescribed rule of law. If they do not, they are out. End of story.

    You may worship toothpicks for all we care and demonstrate your faith by sandblasting postcards of Tioga. The minute you violate another's rights of life, liberty, property etc., however, you are out of line and subject to the law as much as anyone else.

    What is lacking are not rules and policies, what is lacking is the courage to enforce those which we have been given by better men.

    May God - and our predecessors - forgive us, AND help us!



  5. Findalis, Allah said that he perfected Islam [5:3}. He also said that his word can not be changed [6:115]. He also said that Islam should not be changed [30:30]. Moe cursed anyone who would attempt it [Bukhari 9.88.174].

    The Al-Azhar graduates among the Imamate are not going to stand for any such reform! Its a nice dream, but totally impossible.

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  7. A note: Normally Radarsite would not accept a lengthy article posted in the comment section. However, out of respect for Mr. Fouse's previous valuable contribution, re: the Nonie Darwish lecture, I've made an exception here. Therefore I have deleted Mr. Fouse's recent comment and have reposted his interesting article to Radarsite as a new article.

    Hope you all enjoy it.