Saturday, May 10, 2008

From Other Site on the Line: 10 May 08

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China preparing for nuclear war

Analysts say Beijing getting ready for ops beyond Far East

Cross Posted from Norman Hooben's We The People

Posted: May 10, 2008
12:30 am Eastern
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Hainan Island

LONDON – Defense analysts for the British intelligence service MI6 believe China is preparing for the "eventuality of a nuclear war." The conclusion follows evidence that Beijing has built secretly a major naval base deep inside caverns which even sophisticated satellites cannot penetrate, says a report in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

In an unusual development, the analysts have provided details to the specialist defense periodical, Jane's Intelligence Review, which published satellite images of the base location which is hidden beneath millions of tons of rock on the South China Sea island of Hainan.

The MI6 analysts have confirmed the submarine base hewn out of the rock will contain up to 20 of the latest C94 Jin-Class submarines, each capable of firing anti-satellite missiles and nuclear tipped rockets.

Knocking out the satellites would leave Taiwan, Japan and other countries around the Pacific Rim effectively without a key warning system. An attack also would disrupt vital communications between U.S. battle squadrons in the region and Washington.

Satellite images studied by GCHQ, Britain's spy in the sky intelligence gathering organization based at Cheltenham that works closely with the U.S. National Security Agency, have confirmed the entrance to the base is through no fewer than 11 separate tunnel openings.

A Royal Navy nuclear submarine, one of those in the Typhoon Fleet, now has joined another from the U.S. Pacific Fleet to build up a clear image of what is happening inside the secret base which, as well as China's nuclear subs, could house "a host of aircraft carriers."

Naval intelligence officers in London and Washington have confirmed the discovery of the base will present "a significant challenge to U.S. naval dominance and protection to countries ringing the South China Sea."

The base is sited at Sanya on the southern tip of Hainan island. The island came to the attention of Western intelligence in April 2001, when a U.S. EP-3 spy plane trying to test the island's electronic defenses was forced to land there by Chinese fighters, one of which crashed in the sea killing the pilot.

A Ministry of Defense analyst, who cannot be named for security reasons, believes "this could be the prelude to China preparing for a nuclear response."

Editor's Note: The following report is excerpted from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium online newsletter published by the founder of WND. Subscriptions are $99 a year or, for monthly trials, just $9.95 per month for credit card users, and provide instant access for the complete reports.

Note from Radarsite: Just what we need. Now, let's see, we are presently dealing with real or perceived threats from Iraqi insurgents and Quds-trained fighters in Iraq, a bellicose and contemptuous Iran, hell-bent on achieving nuclear weapons, despite the toothless UN sanctions and international condemnation, a resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan, growing Syrian and Hezbollah aggressions in Lebanon, the continued criminal nuclear proliferation from North Korea, increasing sword-rattling from Russia (and increasing encroachments of their oil explorations on our Northern Frontiers), the never-ending struggle against a still powerful al Qaeda, determined to destroy us, and endless waves of dangerous Muslim immigrants, who hold little or no interest in assimilation, and who pose untold threats to our national security, and thousands of illegals pouring across our ungovernable borders to victimize our liberal democracy. And let's not forget pint-sized Venezuela, and a half-a-dozen other paltry leftist, new-style Socialistic South American regimes collectively giving us the finger and resting easy in the certain knowledge that they are beyond our reach -- beyond the reach of our weakened and degenerate national will.

One can only ask -- What does all this say about our international image? What does all this say about how we are increasingly perceived by the world around us? Are we perceived as a Strong Horse or a Weak Horse? Is all of this happening because we are feared and respected? Or because we are held in universal disregard? Is this growing menace just an unpredictable accident of history, or is it perhaps the result of 40 years of weak-kneed liberalism emasculating and eviscerating our willingness to fight back for our freedoms -- regardless of the perils? Regardless of the opinions of others?

Have we not learned by now that concessions and appeasements only embolden our enemies? We have the power, all we need's the courage. The courage and the will.
Can we rediscover these neglected traits in time to save ourselves? - rg


  1. The last Asian power that went up against the US was Japan. We destroyed their homeland then.

    China has never learned the lessons of war. Its leaders are planning for a future war with the US. That's why for the last 10 years they have been stealing our technology.

    But China forgets one thing. The US has more nukes than they do, more missiles than they do, and has used nukes twice before.

  2. This following comment is going to cause some outrage, but I honestly don't see a real alternative....
    The West needs to become feared as an unpredictable, violent adversary once again.
    Pick a country--NK or Iran would be ideal candidates--and give them 48 hours to evacuate all personnel from the sites of their nuclear research facilities.
    Then nuke those facilities.
    Extreme? Not really. There need be no loss of life and the message would be plain. And if the Saudis tried to cut off the oil supply in retaliation, then offer them the same deal.Or just march in and take the oil.
    At the same time the U.S. should make it impossible for environmentalists to oppose carefully managed exploratory drilling in wilderness areas, making it plain that the national interest comes first.

  3. I wouldn't give them 48 hours. I'd give them 15 minutes notice, then destroy away. And the target would be Iran. It would send them a message to behave themselves. Both in the Nuclear area and to get out of Iraq, Lebanon and Gaza.

    And if the Saudis tried to cut off the oil supply in retaliation, then offer them the same deal.Or just march in and take the oil.

    Problem with that. I think that the Saudis are bluffing. I think they peaked their oil production in 06 and can't increase it any more. Actually all they can do is decrease it. They are playing a very dangerous game doing that. Nothing is more dangerous than Americans who need oil.

    As for drilling in "sensitive" places. There is one place that should never be drilled into. Yellowstone National Park. It was created to keep it pristine and natural. To drill would disturb that. It is the world's first national park.

  4. OK Findalis, you can keep Yellowstone. ;-)
    But really, the point I was trying to make is that these regimes have the luxury of knowing that the West will very largely behave in a civilised manner towards other countries, and that gives them a much larger range of options than we enjoy.
    An unpredictable West would change the dynamics of international relations profoundly--and, I think, for the better.

  5. In WW 2 the Germans developed a way to make oil from coal. What ever happened to that idea. With the US coal reserves being the largest in the world, we could solve our energy needs for quite a few years.

  6. South Africa did the same, in response to sanctions. With oil at $126 a barrel it seems odd that nobody's talking about doing the same.

  7. Thanks again to both of you. I see that I'm not the only one who thinks it's time for some radical action.
    This is not just some thoughtless knee-jerk reaction -- it is, I believe, an absolute necessity to keep us safe and demoralize our emboldened enemies.
    And -- I think we're really going to do it. Before Bush leaves office, I think, from what I've been reading, we're going to hit Iran.
    God, I certainly hope so. And I hope it's a truly awesome blow.