Monday, November 3, 2008

Some Straight Talk From Buchanan to Obama


H/T to Kerry and Doreen

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.? Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to. This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:
First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.
Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??

Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks.
Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown , and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids.? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really whiteAmerica 's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.

This needs to be passed around because, this is a message everyone needs to hear !!!!!!!

Folks if things don't change within the next 20 years The America that was established by our forbearers will be gone..


A note from Radarsite: After reading this recent article by controversial conservative firebrand Pat Buchanan, the thought occurred to me that one of the consequences of our nation's seismic shift to the left -- as evidenced both in the Pelosi dominated far left Congress and by the unquestionable popularity of the extreme far left's untouchable darling, Barack Obama -- is that unabashed right-wingers like Pat Buchanan are starting to appear less and less radical, and beginning to sound more and more 'mainstream'. Who among us could argue the basic premise of this reasonable essay? Who among us isn't getting sick and tired of this one-way conversation about race and guilt in America? And yet, for so many people -- not just here in America, but all over the world -- this is precisely what this election is all about. And, who knows, if Barack Obama actually wins the presidency conversations like this might never again take place. -rg


  1. Excellent words by Pat! We need not to eradicate so-called “White Privilege,” but to eliminate opportunities for those hate-mongers who would continue the White guilt-trip in our institutions, in our churches, and in our universities. It starts with each of us. Must we still feel the need to spend our hard-earned money to send our children into a Marxist indoctrination camp, simply because it is an Ivy League university? Can we afford to sit silently in our own churches that have embraced the heretical Marxist gospel of “social Justice,” and dare to judge Obama for not leaving his Afro-centric hateful church? It starts with us and our pocket books!!!

  2. As much as I dislike Pat Buchanan, this time he spouted the absolute truth. Under Obama we will see more of the failed policies that were suppose to help Black Americans out of poverty, and he will impose reverse discrimination upon White Americans.

    Please cross post this to MiM. Still having puter troubles.

  3. Tired of being called racistNovember 3, 2008 at 5:49 PM

    And, still, nothing in the article about Black racism against non-blacks.

    The most disgusting thing is when I hear African-Americans shouting 'Racism', and yet, when African-American children often make 'Kung-Fu' sound effects when they want to make fun of Asians. Even more horrible is when their parents laugh and then join in.

    African-Americans can be more 'Racist' to others then any other race. And yet, they're the first ones to shout 'Racist' whenever they feel slighted. How sad.

  4. Pat is right and I hope Blacks are listening if they want to move ahead. I came from Asia 24 years ago and I am so blessed to be in this country and proud to be her citizen. This is the best country in the world but of course like any other country, we have our strengths and weaknesses. We don't give up and continue to work on our weaknesses. If we fail, we will try again and if we make mistakes, we will learn from them and will do better next time. Some black people need to look at themselves and their communities before they blame the White people. There are so many black millionaires out there and instead of setting examples, they still have chips on their shoulders. The Jews, the Indians, the Chinese, the Arabs, the Asians are far ahead of Blacks economically and some Blacks still blame slavery and history. This is a country of opportunity. Of course, some people have easy life and some are not that fortunate but to blame all on race is insane.

  5. I commend Buchanen for having the courage to speak the truth. We should indeed have a conversation about race, but whites also need to express their concerns about black crime, the black illigitimate rate, affirmative action and the never-ending
    complaints of racism.

    We cannot deny the past and we don't. However, it is only the black community that can make things better- at the grass roots level-family and church.

    What I hope will rise is the number of black conservatives.

    gary fouse


  6. Excellent thoughts, Mr. Fouse, faultline, and findalis.

    The so-called black "leaders" are leading all of us, black and white, toward a bottomless pit of hatred. Without that hatred against whites being hard-wired into every black American, they might have to get a real job.

  7. I think the living relatives of the blacks brought to America way back when should be able to receive a one-way ticket back to Africa - paid for - on one condition: they give up their U.S. citizenship and can never again apply for it. Myabe they will have a good look at the alternative and finally realize how good they have it in America.

    Maybe people should appreciate America for what it is to so many different peoples of this world, instead of blaming the white man for all their problems. I've seen many successful black people in America who haven't allowed themselves to take the low road and not better themselves. It is an individual choice for every man and woman to work hard and make something of themselves - it isn't a gift or a right - it takes hard work and perserverance.

  8. Kudos to Ida for her comments. As one who lives in S California, grew up with Asian-Americans and still lives among them, I marvel at their successful assimilation. I know Asian-Americans don't like to be called the "model minority", but we could all learn a lesson from them.

  9. Affirmative action was one of the biggest mistakes our govt. made. It was set up with good intentions and all. But, many times what looks good on paper, just doesn't pan out when actually applied.

    So, a person who has a better education, more experience and more skills. DOESN'T get the job simply due to be the wrong skin color. What does this do to the work force. It lowers its standards significantly. Black people in America were given a great opportunity to excell and make something of their lives. Instead, they essentially blew that opportunity.

    Blacks need to stop acting as the victim and playing victim too. And just conform with how things are done. They need to play by the rules, to ensure they advance and have a better way of life. They or any other minority group shouldn't be given special situations to get them to a point of being equal. That is something they have to do, simply by not re-inventing the wheel. But, by doing what others are doing.

    Black in America have failed to realize that getting a quality education is the key or secret to success in our society. Not my fault they elect to ignore their educational duties. And when they complain they can't find suitable work that pays well. Then they resort to criminal behaviors to obtain their money. As well as, Blacks have a tendency to not be willing to work hard and follow the steps on a ladder to advance themselves. No, they want it immediately and feel it's owed to them.

    All because slavery occurred a few hundred years ago. Well, that was then and this is now. They need to stop playing victim and move on. And once they move on, they'll find that their advancing too.

  10. How does someone help another, when the person is unwilling to help themselves? That is a big problem among the black community today. Blacks have a propensity to think their entitled to receive, opposed to earning it.

    It all comes down to slavery. Something that occurred hundreds of years ago. It's time they moved on and began to do for themselves. Or else they will continue to keep running in the same spot...going nowhere. No the blacks shouldn't forget what occurred pertaining to slavery. But, they can stop blaming others for their social ills and move on.

  11. Unfortunately the government has done nothing to move the conversation along to the point where there is actual give and take. The government has continually reinforced the idea that White America is to blame for the ills of Blacks in this country. They have done so by the programs already mentioned in other post and in the article. The government has along with the Democrat Party in the lead reinforced the idea of victimization. The programs provided have done nothing more than reinforce the idea that somehow "you poor downtrodden people" are not capable of doing anything for yourselves thus the government must assure you a "level playing field". You poor folks are victims because your ancestors were victims of evil white slave traders and because of this you are owed somehow to make up for the victimhood that you have been subjected too. Forget the fact that people of your own race are the ones who rounded you up from the trees and jungles and plains and drove you to the shores where the "evil white traders" could buy you and deliver you to even more "evil plantation owners" in the new world. You are victims and we will not allow you to forget it.
    This has been the story for the past 150 years. People like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Farrakhan have continued this myth for their own gain , politically and financially. Without victims, these rabble rouser's would be out of a job and actually might have to work for a living. The Democrats have continued this myth as well by catering to this segment of the population in words but then failing to do so in actual deeds for the most part. I can quote several studies that will back up that assertion ala Katrina myths if anyone would like. The Dems give lip service to gain votes and then do little else until election time rolls around again. Then the victim message resounds loudly once again.
    When and if , and the if is the key word, comes that the Black community can break the cycle of victimhood then and only then we we see a real conversation about race and it will not be "poor me" , "evil you" but words of encouragement from both sides and words of understanding from both sides of the table.
    Until votes are no longer bought and sold with the message of victimization don't expect any kind of real conversation, just more yelling , screaming and finger pointing and yes more victimization myths to be added to the multitude already existing.

  12. The Black hate for the White man and all he symbolizes to the Black community is palpable - always has been, always will be. It will get worse. We must face the fact that it will get worse and stay worse. This 'conversation' will never happen, and I don't like "asking" for it. We've been pleading for how many years now.

    I agree with Faultline, we need to drop the white guilt (not that any of us in this thread has any of it) and make OUR conversation heard.

    Can we say: 1) get your children to school and keep them there, or else? 2) Keep your kid off the street, or else? 3) get a job, or else? 4) provide for your family, or else, 5) clean up your neighborhood, or else?

  13. Today is a SAD SAD day. Birth of America: July 4, 1776....Death of America: November 4, 2008. Roger and to all his contributors and readers. I'm sure we're all sitting in disbelief, shock and concerned. Knowing none of use would imagine this day coming true.

    All our intentions were sincere and true, due to the fact that we believe in America and love her even more so. This writer likes to see it as a huge draw back and we lost a battle. And sure many more battles will be lost. As we see the president elect make some aweful decisions for our great nation. But, in the end, I sincerely believe we will win the war.

    Theres is no way Obama or a democrat will gain the seat of the presidency in 2012. Too many mistakes will be made between now and then. Mistakes I hope our country will be able to endure, is the big question. Later on down the road. People will realize that making Obama the president was a huge mistake. Just hope this error of judgement doesn't cost us too much.

    Obama's acceptance speech he began to tone done his rhetoric in what he was going to attempt to accomplish while being the president. Since, Obama is aware that he can't possibly achieve these objectives within the first year, known the less the first 100 days of his office. The good behind this is people have short memories. And will begin to wonder why Obama isn't doing what he said he would do. And that this supposed "change" isn't coming or not for the enbetterment of the American people. And this my friends will be the beginning of the end for Obama and the democrats. When the next elections come along people will look to different candidates.

    McCain, I believe could've won this election. If he just used the ammuniton available to him. McCain should have renegged on receiving campaign funds from the public only...just like Obama did at the beginning of his campaign. So the playing field (of donations/money) would have been level. As well as, McCain should have discussed many topics he considered off the list. Or his advisors informed him not to use certain things. I guess it's a should, could, would situation presented here.

    Nonetheless, there are times in an individuals life and a countries history that we must take a few steps backwards. In order to take huge leaps forward in the not too distant future. And that is what we're going to contend with hopeful.

    Best of luck to everyone. And I say we continue to monitor Obama's Administration and get the word out to people in what he's doing. We can never start too early for 2012.

    Roger, thank you so much for informing the public. All I can say is you did a outstanding job. And it's a pleasure and honor to know your a true American. Who actually cares what's happening to America. We will all learn from this and wait patiently to fix this very wrong that occurred. God bless you Roger and everyone else. We will have our work cut out for outselves over the next four years. As for me, I am not giving up and never will. I will just have to be patient and wait this horrific ordeal out.