tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post8208930398485102507..comments2023-10-31T07:08:49.579-07:00Comments on RADARSITE: Being Polite in the Age of TerrorRoger W. Gardnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-58142010048496567372008-06-30T22:17:00.000-07:002008-06-30T22:17:00.000-07:00I've quoted you and linked to you here: http://co...I've quoted you and linked to you here: http://consul-at-arms.blogspot.com/2008/07/re-being-polite-in-age-of-terror.htmlConsul-At-Armshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391037582103556978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-9546180407859817782008-06-22T14:01:00.000-07:002008-06-22T14:01:00.000-07:00GREAT BLOG! I agree with most of what you say and...GREAT BLOG! I agree with most of what you say and you express the problems better than I do.<BR/> I worry for my country, I worry a LOTVocal Majorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16668416902615123244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-23001365857245077192008-06-17T12:15:00.000-07:002008-06-17T12:15:00.000-07:00And what a lovely riposte to Yikes!And what a lovely riposte to Yikes!KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-1882568028199127372008-06-17T01:12:00.000-07:002008-06-17T01:12:00.000-07:00Amazing timing KG, that you should post your great...Amazing timing KG, that you should post your great comments just at this particular moment. As you know I also cross post to Susan Duclos' Wake Up America. Here are the first comments I received there on this article, followed by Miss Beth's neat rebuttal, and then, finally, my response.<BR/>This commenter is precisely the breed you were talking about. This is the enemy we have to defeat first if we can ever hope to defeat the foreign threats.<BR/>Hope you enjoy this:<BR/><BR/>"Oh my goodness. I'm not liberal or conservative; sometimes liberals' blatant elitism and snobbery against conservatives makes me sick. And then there are conservatives like this, who scare the pants off of me.<BR/><BR/>We live in a new, dangerous world now, and everything's different. Wow. We can't be good anymore, we're in a war. Wow, ever read the bible?<BR/><BR/>Hmm. I have noticed there is often a liberal bias in the media, but do you really believe that news sources that tell the truth instead of repeating "I Love America" over and over are a threat to national security??<BR/><BR/>Should we allow Muslims to build more Mosques? I didn't realize this was even an issue. Does the Government hand out building permits on the basis of religion? I was under the assumption that we had freedom of religion here. I don't see how denying people the right to their religion makes America safe.<BR/>Or are we talking about some kind of combative Mosque building? I was just in a Muslim country, and there was a mosque next door to every church, and they announce their call to prayer over loudspeakers five times a day. Do they do that here? Then they should be stopped. But what you are saying sounds like you think freedom of religion means you have the freedom to choose between Lutheran and baptist.<BR/><BR/>We can no longer agree to disagree? What is the other option? You must silence through any means necessary any opinion or 'fact' that disagrees with your worldview? You must keep shouting your view over and over until the other side gives up? You must shun and distance yourself from anyone who doesn't follow your rhetoric? You must, by logical extension, preclude any possibility that anything you believe yourself might actually be wrong. I pray you have not made yourself as isolated and unlikable as you make yourself sound in this posting, rejecting old friends over problems of politics."<BR/>Yikes | 06.16.08 - 11:12 pm | #<BR/><BR/>Gravatar "Yikes, you are living in a liberal dream world. It has been proven repeatedly mosques in the US are fostering anti-american sentiment. That's number one. Second, islam is not a religion, it is a societal ideology. Period. There is no discussion in that area. Those that have taken the time to educate themselves know this. The Bible and the koran are not the same--one preaches love (the Bible) the other preaches hate, violence and terrorism as a way of life (the koran).<BR/><BR/>Yes, we've read the Bible. We've also read the koran--have you? You don't have to agree or disagree, but when that sword comes down on your head, don't look to us for help--we'll be too busy fighting those who took the time to understand the true, STATED objective of islam--world domination at the point of a sword and the elimination of the US and Israel.<BR/><BR/>Go educate yourself before coming back. What you're saying is way to "pre 9/11" to even give credence to. Politics in this day and age are a deadly serious business, and if you're too blind to see that, there is no educating you. You will be one of the first to fall, and it's a choice you have made for yourself. Keep that in mind as they're sawing off your head to hold up for the cameras like they did Nick Berg and Daniel Perl. If you think that's just fearmongering (a common response to facts), so be it. Like I said, it's your head and your choice.<BR/><BR/>Time to start facing facts and take off the rose colored blinders--this ain't your daddy's USA anymore. Those without the guts and courage to face the facts will be the first to fall as nothing more than weaklings in the stated desire for world domination and US obliteration."<BR/>Miss Beth | Homepage | 06.17.08 - 12:31 am | #<BR/><BR/>Gravatar "Well hello Yikes. I think I will come out of my isolation and my unlikeablity just long enough to reject a new friend over problems of politics -- namely you, my dear Yikes.<BR/><BR/>"And then there are conservatives like this, who scare the pants off of me." -- If that's really true, if I really did 'scare the pants off you', then I feel that I've accomplished something here.<BR/><BR/>But, somehow I doubt it. Somehow I sense that you are too comfortably enscounced in your fuzzy-headed ignorance to contemplate change.<BR/>Yes, we are alarmists and fear-mongers, we are yelling 'Fire' in the crowded theater. But you won't listen, we're disturbing your movie. But the theater is really on fire and there's not much time left to save your skin.<BR/>But, you know better, don't you?<BR/>In answer to your foolish attempt at condescension, I have read the bible, Old Testament and New several times. I have also made a careful statistical study of the Qur'an and have read -- and still read a great deal of Islamist literature. As Miss B. pointed out, we do our homework here.<BR/>But you, my unfriendly Yikes, are the worst kind of fool. You ride in here on your inflated ego, and spew out a bunch of insulting nonsense and think that you have somehow made an impression on us. Well, you have made an impression on us alright.<BR/>You are exactly the kind of complacent amateur who is putting all of our lives in jeopardy with your blind arrogance.<BR/><BR/>Not only did you miss the whole point of that article, I sincerely believe that you are intellectually, and perhaps genetically, incapable of understanding it.<BR/><BR/>You, my dear Yikes, are a lost cause, and you don't even know it.<BR/><BR/>Good night and sweet dreams,<BR/>Roger G."<BR/>Roger W. Gardner | Homepage | 06.17.08 - 3:57 am | #<BR/><BR/>Isn't this a perfect example of what we're up against?Roger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-21186533351601003272008-06-17T00:29:00.000-07:002008-06-17T00:29:00.000-07:00Once again, Roger you've put your finger precisely...Once again, Roger you've put your finger precisely on the problem we face.<BR/>I had this picture of a flare being launched and in the glare, seeing the enemy approaching......<BR/>But the enemy is already among us too, taking away our means to defend ourselves and sapping our resolve.<BR/>The Left is every bit as much the enemy as some primitive maniac wired with explosives--perhaps more so because they don't even wear the uniform of primitivism or strange fanaticism.<BR/>They're the mild-mannered schoolteacher next door, the sneering academic, the unprincipled politician and the uninformed, apathetic neighbour who votes liberal because it makes him feel good and he wants the State to take care of him.<BR/>So, to most people the real enemies of our way of life are virtually invisible.<BR/>Take care of the left first--the rest will be easy.KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-31726304279852665642008-06-16T06:44:00.000-07:002008-06-16T06:44:00.000-07:00My Dear Roger,We have in the past compared 9-11 to...My Dear Roger,<BR/><BR/>We have in the past compared 9-11 to that fateful day one is informed that the irritating little ringing in their ears or twitch of the eye is actually the result of a brain tumor. Everything changes. Hope is not lost. But everything changes, and caution and precaution take on whole new dimensions. <BR/><BR/>Your post here makes this point but in far more poetic and compelling fashion. You are so right, and yet over time this awareness, once so pervasive in the American psyche, fades in the din of inanity.<BR/><BR/>Write on my friend. This is good and necessary work! <BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>CharlieChurchill's Parrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04427649519451371989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-68260008105972671162008-06-15T19:11:00.000-07:002008-06-15T19:11:00.000-07:00To 2savvy -- Whenever we write an article or voice...To 2savvy -- <BR/>Whenever we write an article or voice an opinion, the chances of being misinterpreted are always present. Sometimes, when more people seem to miss the point you were trying to make, than to get it, it can become quite frustrating. Thankfully, I've got good friends and regular commenters who do get it -- some of whom got it long before I did.<BR/><BR/>I posted this article to another website, however, and the very first commnenter made the observation that I seemed to have lost a lot on 9/11. And my immediate reaction was -- My God. If you don't feel as though you lost a lot on that day, that your life has been irrevocably altered, then you're just not paying attention. <BR/><BR/>I must thank you for your sensitive and thoughtful comments, and for understanding exactly what I was trying to say and why I was trying to say it.<BR/><BR/>Welcome to Radarsite, you're in good company here. Please come back often. -- rgRoger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-26365422599285793422008-06-15T18:50:00.000-07:002008-06-15T18:50:00.000-07:00Greetings...I am not a blogger nor do I frequently...Greetings...I am not a blogger nor do I frequently leave commentary. <BR/><BR/>Nothing has ever been the same in my world either since 9-11. It helps to read your very experience through the pen (keyboard) of someone with the talent to do so. My new world view often leaves me without the proper words. I have less in common with so many but have at least learned to pick and choose when to express myself. More and more get it but so many cannot hear or accept reality.<BR/><BR/>I found a book that also hit me with the shared shift in pysche. It's "The Fallout: How a guilty liberal lost his innocence" by Andrew Anthony.<BR/><BR/>Regards.2Savvyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384065029713124258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-49943862533193550852008-06-15T18:35:00.000-07:002008-06-15T18:35:00.000-07:00Thanks Findalis. I still try to be polite too. an...Thanks Findalis. I still try to be polite too. and although it may not always sound like it, I remain very positive and optimistic. But --<BR/>it is that last sentence of yours that fuels my fires. that slipping back into complacency.Roger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-54649638239282332692008-06-15T18:30:00.000-07:002008-06-15T18:30:00.000-07:00Thank you Debbie. Nice to hear from you. rgPS: I f...Thank you Debbie. Nice to hear from you. <BR/>rg<BR/>PS: I finally figured out how to get your icon on my sidebar to work as a hyperlink. Better late than never, right? lolRoger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-5044389782911217882008-06-15T18:19:00.000-07:002008-06-15T18:19:00.000-07:00Before 9/11 or even the earlier attack on the Worl...Before 9/11 or even the earlier attack on the World Trade Center I was one of those who tried to warn Americans on the dangerous nature of the Jihadist. But our pleas fell on deaf ears.<BR/><BR/>Although terrorism isn't confined to the realm of the Jihadist (Remember the IRA?), the Jihadist is a different sort of animal and very often the left would scream racist at the suggestion that Muslims welcome and supported terror.<BR/><BR/>I am still polite, there is no reason not to be so. But now my voice is raised with others who believe as I do. I take courage in that we have become many. Each of us see the threat and are trying to warn the world.<BR/><BR/>But will our warnings be in time? I pray that they are, but too many people have returned to a pre-9/11 mentality.Findalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02881549378886491540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-91889018970995641782008-06-15T18:15:00.000-07:002008-06-15T18:15:00.000-07:00I'm with you Roger.Debbie HamiltonRight TruthI'm with you Roger.<BR/><BR/>Debbie Hamilton<BR/><A HREF="http://www.righttruth.typepad.com" REL="nofollow">Right Truth</A>Right Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18274108313586611205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-75953605558478593152008-06-15T16:48:00.000-07:002008-06-15T16:48:00.000-07:00Oddly enough my attention terrorism and things lik...Oddly enough my attention terrorism and things like CBW, explosive and drug detection predates September 11th. No doubt however, that since then, the urgency of performance, and the sense of purpose has increased (think back to Centennial Park and then to the Murrah Building).StormWarninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09990758652184200652noreply@blogger.com