tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post6387145932837306977..comments2023-10-31T07:08:49.579-07:00Comments on RADARSITE: Flight 93 Blogburst: Moral Muslims don't want a memorial to the terrorists on the Flight 93 crash siteRoger W. Gardnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-42710458925701837092009-04-24T21:54:00.000-07:002009-04-24T21:54:00.000-07:00I dissected the article here:
http://snooper.wordp...I dissected the article here:<br />http://snooper.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/flight93-terrorist-memorial/<br /><br />I took issue with seven critical points, which I denoted with superscripts linked to an enumerated list following the article. <br /><br />Roger is right: Islam can not survive the excision of its evil core. <br /><br />Findalis is out of luck, because Islam is irreformable. Perfection can only be defiled, not improved; see 5:3. <br /><A HREF="http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/cgi/bin/retrieve.cgi?version=pickthall+yusufali+khan+shakir+sherali+khalifa+arberry+palmer+rodwell+sale&layout=auto&searchstring=006:115" REL="nofollow">6:115. And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change His Words. And He is the AllHearer, the AllKnower. </A><A HREF="http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/cgi/bin/retrieve.cgi?version=pickthall+yusufali+khan+shakir+sherali+khalifa+arberry+palmer+rodwell+sale&layout=auto&searchstring=018:27" REL="nofollow">18:27. And recite what has been revealed to you (O Muhammad ) of the Book (the Qur'ân) of your Lord (i.e. recite it, understand and follow its teachings and act on its orders and preach it to men). None can change His Words, and none will you find as a refuge other than Him. </A>You can't change the Qur'an!!! <br /><br />Umdat as-Salik, Book O, Chapter 8, paragraph 7 lists 20 acts entailing apostasy, punishable by execution. This is one member of that list:<br />-7- to deny any verse of the Koran or anything which by scholarly consensus (def: b7) belongs to it, or to add a verse that does belong to it;<br /><br />A Muslim who denies 2:216, 8:12, 8:39, 8:60,8:67, 9:29 or 9:123 is an apostate and may be killed with impunity. <br /><br />I believe that Zehudi Jasser and Khalim Massoud are sincere, sufferers of cognitive dissonance. <br /><br />Islam is what it is, not what they wish it were; it will never become what they want it to be.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975775791961343435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-20028345484738274532009-04-24T00:43:00.000-07:002009-04-24T00:43:00.000-07:00Actually Roger there is a small minority of Muslim...Actually Roger there is a small minority of Muslims who do reject the violent passages of the Koran as false prophesies. They accept only the early non-violent ones. Nor do they consider Mo the most perfect man but place him as imperfect as many of the other prophets of the bible.<br /><br />It is too bad that the majority of Muslims don't follow this sect. For if they did, none of us would have a problem with Islam.<br /><br />Islam today is where Christianity was in the 15th Century. The violence over the Reformation lasted centuries. Unfortunately, the world cannot afford 200 years of war. Not in an age of WMDs. So either Islam must reform to a gentler form or it will be destroyed. The world cannot accept any other choice!Findalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02881549378886491540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-53332224857074135652009-04-23T04:14:00.000-07:002009-04-23T04:14:00.000-07:00Fine, thoughtful article. The subject of reforming...Fine, thoughtful article. The subject of reforming Islam remains problematic for me. To abrogate the existential threat of Islam to the non-Islamic world, one would have to expunge so much material from the Koran that it would become utterly unrecognizable -- conquerable to taking Christ out of Christianity. Islam is aggressive political movement founded on religious doctrine. Islam was founded by a criminal and murderer, and this fact cannot be altered by changing or deleting a few violent phrases. I'm afraid I still find it difficult to recognize "moral Muslims" or "moderate Muslims". Unless they are prepared to completely renounce the teachings of their "prophet" and start afresh, they are, in my view, guilty of perpetuating this ghastly cult. Islam is the enemy. Not just the radicals, but the bloodthirsty cult itself. Islam -- regular, "non-radical" Islam is the sworn enemy of freedom and liberty, There can be no other interpretation of its message. It truly is "them or us".Roger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.com