tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post142506085236790202..comments2023-10-31T07:08:49.579-07:00Comments on RADARSITE: From other Sites on the Line: 14 May 08Roger W. Gardnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-42651269314106219782008-05-15T14:14:00.000-07:002008-05-15T14:14:00.000-07:00Thank you once again Shawmut for your intelligent ...Thank you once again Shawmut for your intelligent support.<BR/>I think our Mr. Potter bit off a little more than he could chew by coming on here.<BR/>PS: I took the liberty of deleting that duplicate comment. lol<BR/>rgRoger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-46462960109732857322008-05-15T13:48:00.000-07:002008-05-15T13:48:00.000-07:00Absurdity is one thing, but when it becomes an imp...Absurdity is one thing, but when it becomes an impediment to the well intentioned people then it's criminal.<BR/>Great response, Roger.<BR/>Such irony, that the fool in the gold-fish bowl would be concerned about you embarassing yourself, is priceless. I caught a quote that I fouond interesting; "Steffens said it is important to respect different cultures and the rights of disabled students. “I think this is part of the growth process when we become more diverse," Steffens, one of a regiment of quasi-doyens employed by St. Cloud, said."<BR/>First of all, the threat to kill the student's dog was so direct as to even suggest motive for doing so. (Be it religious or not, it suggests prior consent of the will).<BR/>Secondly, the Somali is the living failure in diversification.<BR/>That a state institution would side with such a bigotted argument against the home culture is an atrocity.<BR/>The full elements of shame (Dante would have the best detail, I guess.) should cover those Prairie Professors.<BR/>(As to the political factor being employed as a religious matter, I recall the terms of the Reformation; 'Cuius regio eius religio.' Whose land, his religion.David Barry O'Connorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08331007985962351381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-44798058493759995922008-05-15T12:42:00.000-07:002008-05-15T12:42:00.000-07:00Carerful Roger... Your Presenting of the " rerst o...Carerful Roger... Your Presenting of the " rerst of the Story" might the trolling presiden have an Epiphany and go out and recruit a true anti Muslim Terrorist student on full scholarship to at least say that there is ONE at that institution.. after all there seems to be anew trend in the Socialistic Academia like at CU Boulkder where the president wants to endow a Conservative "token" chair...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-50381047098544768122008-05-15T12:00:00.000-07:002008-05-15T12:00:00.000-07:00Thank you Charlie and KG. And, yes, Findalis it's ...Thank you Charlie and KG. And, yes, Findalis it's a sad joke.Roger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-58234502981228098402008-05-15T11:52:00.000-07:002008-05-15T11:52:00.000-07:00Let us see:In this same area of the country Muslim...Let us see:<BR/><BR/>In this same area of the country Muslim taxi drivers won't pick up a ride with a service dog.<BR/><BR/>Won't pick up a ride who is carrying alcohol.<BR/><BR/>Won't pick up a ride if it is a single woman.<BR/><BR/>Want to ban service dogs from schools.<BR/><BR/>And they are "working" to fix the problem?<BR/><BR/>That's a joke.Findalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02881549378886491540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-31582194625253066242008-05-15T11:34:00.000-07:002008-05-15T11:34:00.000-07:00Mr. Potter said:"Muslim leaders around the world a...Mr. Potter said:<BR/>"Muslim leaders around the world are working to adjust the teaching of strict Islamic understanding to the modern world."<BR/>Who? Where? How many?<BR/>Because they certainly don't appear to be having much success--unless the lack of airplanes being flown into tall buildings is evidence of their efforts, something I very much doubt.<BR/>Potter's claim is just one more example of the feelgood multiculti mindless mantras spouted by leftist academics.KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-40821573833402398152008-05-15T11:24:00.000-07:002008-05-15T11:24:00.000-07:00My Dear Roger,Once again you do us all proud. Nob...My Dear Roger,<BR/><BR/>Once again you do us all proud. Noble Gentleman Warrior of the Blogosphere. Had we the Queen's authority to do so (and weren't merely a bloody parrot) we would knight thee. Carry on!<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>CharlieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-54676137826774133842008-05-15T10:26:00.000-07:002008-05-15T10:26:00.000-07:00Thank you Gary for that new insight.And thank you ...Thank you Gary for that new insight.<BR/>And thank you Susan. As you must know, your opinion is invaluable to me.<BR/>rgRoger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-72745340259846457192008-05-15T09:59:00.000-07:002008-05-15T09:59:00.000-07:00Bravo Roger!!!! After having read through everyth...Bravo Roger!!!! After having read through everything on this subject, you are correct, they are more worried about protecting one "set" of students than others and this is an outrage.Susan Ducloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01876090195787415266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-5014515899725911542008-05-15T09:49:00.000-07:002008-05-15T09:49:00.000-07:00Ms. Johnson. I think this will be my final communi...Ms. Johnson. I think this will be my final communication with you on this subject. I have posted my email reply to Mr. Potter on the article in question and I believe it addresses all of the issues that you brought up. <BR/><BR/>Finally, believe what you will about us, it matters little to me. This is not the proper format to discuss my opinions of Muslims and of Islam. However, if you read some of my many articles on this subject here on Radarsite I think my positions will become quite clear.<BR/><BR/>Please let's just drop this fruitless dialogue.<BR/><BR/>Thank you.<BR/>Roger G.Roger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-79533643988559909602008-05-15T08:38:00.000-07:002008-05-15T08:38:00.000-07:00Roger,David Horowitz mentioned St Cloud in his tal...Roger,<BR/><BR/>David Horowitz mentioned St Cloud in his talk this week as an example of what goes on in our universities. I don't recall the incident he described.<BR/><BR/>This is just another example of an arrogant group of people who come here and expect us to adapt to their ways.<BR/><BR/>Same people we sent our military to help deliver food and what did we get in response? Black hawk down.<BR/><BR/>Why wan't this guy arrested for making threats?<BR/><BR/>gary Fouse<BR/>fousesquawkGary Fousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17014739065121483409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-30292513640185196112008-05-15T05:37:00.000-07:002008-05-15T05:37:00.000-07:00A couple last comments due to people assuming they...A couple last comments due to people assuming they know me and what I think:<BR/><BR/>First, I'm not supporting President Potter per se - I'm pointing out that you're going after the wrong administrator. It really isn't his position to discipline the person who threatened Mr. Hurd. <BR/><BR/>Second, I have issues with the fact that you didn't post the article in it's entirety. You can still take from it what you will, but post the whole thing, please? Don't chop it up to fuel your fire more efficiently.<BR/> <BR/>And last, I'm not condoning the behavior of the person who threatened Mr. Hurd's dog. The district has a zero tolerance policy that they aren't following and I have serious issues with that. However, it is the school district's responsibility to own up and take care of it. Not President Potter's.<BR/><BR/>If no one here is racist, fine. However, it appears to me that there is a blanket hatred for Muslims. I can't buy into that - a few bad apples don't make the whole barrel rotten.<BR/><BR/>Julie A. JohnsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-18681739977780517742008-05-15T05:25:00.000-07:002008-05-15T05:25:00.000-07:00Here is the link to the original article. As I sa...Here is the link to the original article. As I said, you left portions out and only kept that which you (it appears to me) furthered your agenda. http://www.sctimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008105120058<BR/><BR/>As for President Potter taking ownership, I disagree. I believe they made contact with the school district to find out what happened as the University has many, many student teachers within the district and I expect that the University would want to make sure this didn't disrupt the entire program for all student teachers along with Mr. Hurd's education. By disrupt, I mean endanger, incapacitate, etc. Anything that could cause student teachers to leave the district.<BR/><BR/>If you want someone who truly should have ownership, perhaps you should contact Bruce Watkins, the superintendent of the St. Cloud school district who is actually in charge of what happens within his district - as President Potter is not.<BR/><BR/>Regards, <BR/><BR/>Julie A. JohnsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-38228998088744361532008-05-14T23:21:00.000-07:002008-05-14T23:21:00.000-07:00Thank you Lew for your calm and intelligent respon...Thank you Lew for your calm and intelligent response. You are a true gentleman. And thank you again for your service to our country.<BR/>We are not at war with academia, or with immigrants -- unless they are illegal. We are at war with those would would diminish our greatness by incrementally giving away our heritage and our traditions -- and even our legal rights, in order to accommodate other cultures and participate in these multiculturalist experiments which has already produced such chaos both here and abroad. <BR/>this particular case is important because it in indicative of a trend, a trend which is ruining our country and sacrificing the gains of the Western world to appease Third World civilizations with brutal morays.<BR/>However belatedly, people are beginning to see the folly of this latest leftist exercise in social engineering, they're beginning to fight back , as is evidenced by the recent elections in Rome and in London. The PC multiculturalists have lost big time and are slinking away with their tails between their legs.<BR/>If these Somali students are having a problem with our culture -- tough. I have no sympathy for them. Every previous generation of immigrants to this country have found their way to assimilate, mostly without complaint. Because they all know that they are lucky to be here. If the Somali students harassed or threatened another student because of his American culture they should be expelled and arrested, and sent back to that hellhole they came from.Roger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-33067610860716537532008-05-14T22:49:00.000-07:002008-05-14T22:49:00.000-07:00I would like to address Mr. Potter, as I am also a...I would like to address Mr. Potter, as I am also a Veteran of the Viet Nam War.<BR/><BR/>Yes, we fought for people’s freedom, both Americans and others. However, when we traveled to foreign lands, it was incumbent upon us to respect their culture and laws, not them accommodate us.<BR/><BR/>That being said, the Americans With Disabilities Act gives those with bona-fide Service Animals the right to unfettered access to nearly every establishment in the country. I know this as I have been waging a campaign to keep non-service animals out of certain businesses, such as restaurants, grocery stores and the like as many have deceitfully claimed a dog to be a service animal to be allowed in those areas with them.<BR/><BR/>I too welcome those that wish to immigrate or visit our country as I am currently sponsoring a South Korean man for citizenship. He is learning our culture while maintaining his own, not expecting me to become South Korean.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Mr. Potter’s educators and administrators should brush up on American Laws and inform foreign students of the differences they must adapt too, instead of expecting Americans to adapt to every other culture over our own.<BR/><BR/>As for charges of "un-American," I personally feel patriotism isn't necessarily defined by ones service or lack of service, but their support for our country and our citizens.<BR/><BR/>If a foreign student finds our laws unbearable or against their beliefs, they have every right to return home where the culture they desire exists.<BR/><BR/>If they wish to remain in America, I welcome them with open arms, providing they respect our laws and people.Lewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06422249750094117697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-2984138849327831322008-05-14T21:16:00.000-07:002008-05-14T21:16:00.000-07:00Thanks Findalis.Thanks Findalis.Roger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-63077650097176579112008-05-14T21:05:00.000-07:002008-05-14T21:05:00.000-07:00I'd suggest that you change your settings too. Th...I'd suggest that you change your settings too. That way you can make sure they leave at least a pseudonym.Findalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02881549378886491540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-77774869184634855412008-05-14T20:55:00.000-07:002008-05-14T20:55:00.000-07:00It has already been clearly stated that we accept ...It has already been clearly stated that we accept no more anonymous comments.<BR/>rgRoger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-12977481425371412222008-05-14T20:52:00.000-07:002008-05-14T20:52:00.000-07:00Anonymous said: It's the same language choice tha...Anonymous said: It's the same language choice that leads to the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, the Rwandan genocide, and the mass killings of Native Americans.<BR/><BR/>He and Julie claim that what you write is racist and bigoted. That it wasn't the University's fault. There they are wrong.<BR/><BR/>It is the University's responsibility to provide a safe workplace for their students. An incident like this should have been addressed by the University as <B>Unacceptable</B> to the school board involved. Instead they put their head in the sand.<BR/><BR/>As for the comment above. What leads to genocide is for good people <B>not</B> to take a stand against evil. I hear people cry about Darfur, but no government will stand up and say NO! I heard many women decry the treatment of a rape victim in Saudi Arabia, but did one government in the world say we cannot allow you to victimize women any more.<BR/><BR/>The Women's Movement is silent on the treatment of women in Muslim countries, but condemns Israel. There is a simple word for it. Anti-Semitism. And yes, so-called anti-Zionism is just a new name for that old anti-Semitism.Findalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02881549378886491540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-22306121260937757782008-05-14T20:47:00.000-07:002008-05-14T20:47:00.000-07:00Regards to you Julie Johnson. I'm afraid I have to...Regards to you Julie Johnson. I'm afraid I have to admit to being a little confused by all this, just as you suggest. Although, according to Mr. Potter, he assures us in one sentence that he and St. Cloud have nothing whatsoever to do with this whole non-event, then in the very next sentence he takes ownership of it:<BR/><BR/>"We have been in conversation with the school system’s leaders and we do understand the complexities with which they have to deal. We will work with District 742 to help make sure that this problem does not reoccur."<BR/>"...the complexities with which they have to deal..." Please. We're talking about a student being threatened by another student, most likely on religious/cultural -- perhaps even racist grounds. The only complexities involved are in your convoluted answers.<BR/><BR/>If you or St. Cloud have an argument with the particulars of this story take it up with the St. Cloud Times. That's where we got it from. And we made no mistakes in quoting them.<BR/><BR/>Why, I wonder, do you remind me of those Islamist apologists who are constantly telling us that -- no matter how much research we may have done -- we don't really understand, that we've just somehow misinterpreted the facts, that we're just not knowledgeable<BR/>enough to know what is really going on. <BR/><BR/>Ms. Johnson, I'm afraid your noble efforts at coming to the defense of this school system's failings fall flat. Because, once again, you will not refute a single fact in this story; you just keep telling us how wrong we are. It seems to me that the only facts that you have successfully refuted so far are in which particular school this fictional event never happened. Congratulations for that. <BR/><BR/>Other than that you haven't said anything that would change my mind. <BR/><BR/>If these events did not happen, then just say so, then prove it. Otherwise, why don't you just keep your superior indignation to yourself. We shall remain happy here wallowing in our racism and sensationalism.<BR/><BR/>Have a good day.<BR/>rgRoger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-80311987712947425592008-05-14T20:25:00.000-07:002008-05-14T20:25:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-19368814407710309072008-05-14T20:06:00.000-07:002008-05-14T20:06:00.000-07:00I just read your cross-posting of the St. Cloud Ti...I just read your cross-posting of the St. Cloud Times article and email exchange with the President of SCSU. It's unfortunate that you didn't post a COMPLETE article - you conveniently left out portions - I know because I read the article on the day it was first published.<BR/><BR/>In addition, it's too bad that you don't understand the difference between the St. Cloud State University and the St. Cloud School District. You are attacking SCSU and SCSU has nothing to do with this except that Mr. Hurd is a student there. He was student teaching in a high school in the St. Cloud district and the incident took place in the high school whose administration is handling the issue. <BR/><BR/>I actually thought President Potter was quite benign given the fact that you didn't know what you were talking about while attacking him.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the people commenting on your blog would re-think what they're saying were they to be given accurate information. Perhaps not - given the headlines and other content it appears that racism & sensationalism is alive and well on your blog. Combine that with the misinformation and well.... You see what you get.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Julie A. JohnsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-44126517222613414592008-05-14T19:08:00.000-07:002008-05-14T19:08:00.000-07:00RCP is a real gutless disaster which having not th...RCP is a real gutless disaster which having not the Gonads to face the TRUTH has been Deleted from by postings... The policy of appeasement which gave us 9/11 is apparently once again alive and well anomg the CRETINS!Wonder if MORON.ORg has any connection with RCP??????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-60844440806763442932008-05-14T18:47:00.000-07:002008-05-14T18:47:00.000-07:00Thanks everyone. And thanks Redhawk for your unwav...Thanks everyone. And thanks Redhawk for your unwavering support.<BR/><BR/>To MK -- As you well know, that original article came intact from the St. Cloud Times. You can read my comment to them at the end of the article on Radarsite. <BR/><BR/>If our friend Mr. Potter still has issues with this story he should take it up with them.<BR/><BR/>PS: It's interesting how this article made the front page at RCP with 11 votes, then just totally disappeared. Gets my conspiracy theory alarms ringing. lol<BR/><BR/>rgRoger W. Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10255672744176037466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041404668013008872.post-31165049139973429572008-05-14T18:26:00.000-07:002008-05-14T18:26:00.000-07:00RogerThis Cretin from Academia really has gopne ou...Roger<BR/>This Cretin from Academia really has gopne out of his way to reinforce our already Known fact that the Academia of America has already been taken over by the Secular progressive anti-America Komissars!<BR/>Keep taking them to task.. We are With you !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com